Later Safarov rejected his own evidence given during the first
interrogation claiming there had been a miscommunication between
him and the interpreter.
The copy of text in our possession was not of a good quality and
in some parts the text was not readable at all. Those parts are
mentioned further as "[unclear]". Where sensitive personal
data was subject to removal it was marked as "[skipped]".
Translated from Hungarian into English by Liana Badalyan.
Budapest Police Headquarters
Inspection Major Department
Life Protection Department (word by word translation)
Life Protection Minor Department
About the examination of the suspect
It was prepared by the Life Protection Department, the Criminal
Code 166 §(1) paragraph, against and according to that, because
of the crime of first-degree murder reasonable suspicion against
unknown delinquent namely Ramil Safarov by the occasion of the examination
at Budapest, Gyorskocsi street 31.at the year of 2004 month 02 and
day, at 14:28.
From the side of the detective:
Participants in the procedure and their legal statues:
Ramil Safarov, delinquent
Dr. Hornyak Gabor, defender
Timar Zsuzsanna, Interpreter
Data of delinquent:
Name: Ramil Safarov
Place of birth: Dzebrail Karabah Azerbaijan
Date of birth: [skipped]
Mother’s name: [skipped]
Passport number: [skipped]
Work place: [skipped]
Permanent Address: [skipped]
He is allowed to use his mother tongue both in oral and written
form. A translator is used for the preparation of the police record.
Data of the translator:
Name: Timar Zsuzsanna
Language of the translation: Russian
The translator signed that she agrees with the lawful behavior
of the translator. According to 103. § (1)
[Interrogator:] I’m informing you to know that according
to Be. 179 § (1) you are examined as a delinquent, because in 2004.02.19
at around 5 a.m. at Budapest, X. district, Hungari krt in 9-11 in
Zrinyi Miklos National Defence University, K building, II floor,
in the room N218/A, with the help of an axe hit on the head and
on the neck, as well as on the chest of an Armenian citizen namely
Gurgen Margaryan, who was sleeping on the bed at that time. As a
result the named person died on the spot.
This crime according to the criminal code 166 §(1) and the paragraphs
a,) d,) f,) is: was conceived deliberately, with the extremely cold
cruelty, as well as suspecting the willingness of murdering others.
I warn you that according to Be. 196 you can deny the fact of suspecting.
[Safarov:] I understood the suspecting, I do not take objection,
because I did the action.
[Interrogator:] According to the Be. 117§ (2) paragraph
I warn you that you are not obliged to make a confession, at any
time you can deny to answer the questions, but you can decide in
the way that you make a confession even if previously you denied
it. I warn you that whatever you say can be used as evidence.
According to the Be. 117 § (4) I warn you that if you deny making
a confession this will not make any obstacle to continue the procedure.
The deny of making confession do not [unclear]. I warn you if you
make a confession, and in your confession you accuse falsely someone
else with crime action you commit the crime of false accuse.
According to the Be. 179 § (3) I warn you that you can use a defender
or you can ask for the defender.
I warn you that in this procedure you are obliged to have a defender
and if within three days you will not have defender I will appoint
one for you.
According to the Be. 43 § (2) you have the right in the crime procedure
that any change in the suspecting, the subject of the accusation
must be known by you, as well as you should be present when expert
is examined [unclear].
You have the right to get enough time and possibilities to be prepared
for the defense, to make suggestions, remarks, reflections, to take
remedy, about the rights and obligations of the criminal procedure
from the court, from the prosecutor, from the inspectors. You have
the right to contact with your defender and if you are the foreign
citizen to get contact with the consul of your country and with
him or her you have the right to contact without monitoring both
orally and in written form; until the application of the indictment
the prosecutor, after that the court has the right to decide whether
you can contact with your relatives or with other person in oral
form with personal monitoring.
According to the 43 §(5) I warn you that you are obliged to give
the address of place of your living and the change of the address
if you move within three working days to that court or to that prosecutor,
who is making a procedure against you. If you missed to do this
you will be obliged to pay fine.
[Safarov:] I understood the warning about my rights and
I declare that I would like to make a confession; I understand the
translator and I do not have any objection against her. I also understood
that during my examination Dr. Hornyak Gabor, defender, is present.
Other data about the delinquent:
Mother tongue: Azerbijani
Spoken languages: Russian, English, Turkish
Education Status: High education (University)
Marital Status: Single
Children under the age of 18: none
Bearer or caretaker? No
Under bear or caretaker? No
Monthly Net Income: I don’t want to manifestate
The confession of the delinquent
[Safarov:] For the question I would like to say that whole
thing goes back to 1988 Armenian-Karabahi War, after which there
was cease-fire, but nobody kept this cease-fire, but the very tragedy
that I was talking about happened in 1992 February 26. At that time
Armenian soldiers attacked the Karabki Hodzani* area, where were
only civil citizens, particularly children and women and old people
and around 8000 people were killed. This is my blood; I called them
relatives in the future. Armenians occupied my place of birth for
1 year in 1993, August 25. This is also memorable as it happened
on the date of my birth. I don’t know how many people were killed
at that time, but even though it’s huge number. That was the time
when I lost part of my close relatives as well. I applied to the
army in 1991, this was a soldier secondary school, after 1 year
I received further training in Turkey, where I received certificate
(secondary and high education). The only motivation for me for fight
against Armenians and to kill as many as possible in the fight.
Me, as being azeri soldier, took weapon in order to protect my home,
and there were other reasons as well, such as that after the collapse
of the Soviet Union the army was destroyed and I felt that new army
In this new army every soldier is Azerbaijani. I declare that time
I have not killed any other Armenian, just helped injured soldiers
to get to hospital. In addition I feel sorry that I haven’t killed
any Armenian. My army sent me to this training and being here I
have to face the fact that two Armenian were learning with me and
I have to say that because of personal effectiveness the feeling
of animosity grow up in me. In the beginning we were greeting each
other, rather to say they said hi to me, but I didn’t accept it
and curiosity in the whole thing was that when they walked close
to me they were mumbled something in Armenian and laughed at me.
That was the time when I decided that I will kill these two persons,
the Armenians, I will cut their head off. The reason for this is
that Armenians kill Azerbaijanians in the same way. What I already
mentioned – the 8000 people carnage happened this way by Armenians.
I didn’t plan the murder of the two Armenian at that day, but just
at Ferbuary 26, taking into consideration an anniversary, but because
of that laugh at me the feeling of animosity became bigger and bigger
and that’s why I decided that that day in the morning I kill both
of them. That’s why yesterday, at the 18th, around 19.00 I bought
an axe near to Tesco at Nepstadion. I decided next to axe, because
however I had a knife, I rather though I will not use that, because
if I pierce them through by the knife, they may shout, shout for
help, but if I hit their head by the axe, they loose their consciousness
and will not be able to shout for help. This whole thing that I
commit this today was thought out yesterday in me, but as I have
mentioned previously, I was planning the two persons murder on the
26th. I would like to make a remark, that I also bought a honing
stone for the axe and the knife.
[Interrogator:] You mentioned axe in your answers as tool
of the murder that we took at the place of the murder. Could you
please draw that?**
[Safarov:] I will call the drawn tool as axe in the future.
The handle of the axe was around 1 meter long and the iron part
was red, color of the light tree. Upon this I bought a dagger[knife],
whose blade could be around 20 sm, and the handle was black and
plastic. The drawing of the tool, that I called axe and about the
knife I gave to the inspector.
After I bough the axe, after 19.00, I returned to my accommodation
at Hungaria krt. At room number 219/A I was alone, because my room
mate – Ukrainian soldier traveled home, because of the death of
one of his relatives. I hide axe, the knife and the honing stone
under my bed case. After this I did my English homework, I closed
my door with key and starter to sharp, after that I went out to
the hall to have a cigarette, in the bath. I was up till 5 a.m.
and I haven’t slept at all and then I grabbed the axe and I put
the knife into my right pocket. The reason for choosing this early
time, because according to my knowledge this is the time, when sleeping
is the deepest, when they do not wake up for small noise, and I
also have to be sure the place where the person that I wanted to
kill was sleeping, because his room mate is the Hungarian citizenship.
I didn’t want to heart him, because he is really nice guy. My aim
was that I would come here first, because this was closer to my
room and after I finished with him I will go back to the end of
the hall. The other reason for this that the person I wanted to
kill first is a muscular, more athletic person, and I decided to
start with him.
[Interrogator:] Do you know the names of the attacked person
or the person you wanted to attack?
[Safarov:] I appeared in the middle of the hall, where I
was about to go, I tried to open the door, it opened, it wasn’t
close. I turned on the light and I saw the following things in the
room: Entering the door on the left bed the Armenian was lying facing
the wall. The Hungarian was on the right hand side bed, I didn’t
pay any attention the way he was lying. As I turned on the light
the Armenian turned to his back, trying to open his eyes, but at
that time I hit him at his forehead with the flat side of the axe.
At that time Hungarian guy woke up and told me in English: ”Please,
I told him this is not your business; this is the business of Armenians
and azerbaijans. After this I turned the axe to the sharp side and
I afflicted to the middle of his neck, and I don’t know where else,
but I hit him on his leg too.
[Interrogator:] How many times did you hit with the axe?
[Safarov:] Three times on his neck and if I remember right
with the flat side of the axe I hit on his face, at that time if
I remember well [unclear] after hit on his arm and his leg. As I
remember around 6-7 or maybe 8 could be the number of hits, but
I do not really remember.
[Interrogator:] In which hand did you hold the axe and how?
[Safarov:] As I’m being right handed I hold it in my right
hand. Answering the question, when I afflicted by the axe I stood
at armenian’s head. When I afflicted on his neck with the sharp
side of the axe, then I afflicted from the top pf my head three
times. Since the handle of the axe was long, the other hits were
made in the same movement. Going back to the Hungarian guy, he run
out form the room and in the next room and woke up the Uzbek and
Ukrainian students, if I know it well then he went to the security
on the first floor. The Hungarian guy except shouting at me did
not obstruct me from finishing what I have planed, because when
he saw me I’ve seen on him that he was very frightened, he was shacking,
he became white, but physically he did not obstruct. Answering the
question, I had a black bound hat on me and ADIDAS jogging and sport
shoes. In the pocket of the trousers there was knife.
When I afflicted, in the first hit I did it in silent, after that
I started to shout at the plaintiff and abused him.
Police Record stopped at 16.08
Police record continued at 16.15
[Safarov:] The abusement happened in Russian. After Hungarian
guy run out, I finished the hitting and left the room. When I went
out then the plaintiff was still alive, but I know what I caused
him is a death injury, because I almost separated his head from
I went out to the hall and started to go to the other Armenian,
but I didn’t know exactly where is his room. Two rooms were closed
by key, on the hall there was nobody. I tried to open and checked
whether it’s closed, and I knocked. One of the door, which was closed,
somebody opened it, also two of my soldier mate live there. One
of the Ukrainian as I know looked out form the room. I asked from
him where the Armenian is sleeping, he said he swear that he don’t
know. After that I started to hit the other closed door by axe,
the door in front. First I hit with the flat side of the axe and
[unclear].The door didn’t open, I think that they didn’t let it
open form inside. I shouted to him that: “Come out, wherever you
hide, I find you”, I shouted in Russian.
After this in the hall four or five students appeared. One of
the Uzbek student jumped to me and said to calm down. We even lit
a cigarette and then another Azerbaijani student woke up. We went
out to the hall form the small place in front of the room. I hold
the axe in my hand and one Albanian student mate of mine came and
I started to talk to him.
When the other Azerbaijani fellow woke up he was totally in shock.
He looked at the axe and he saw the blood on it and I think that
was the time, when he realized what I did. He started to cry and
after that the police came.
I do declare that my Azerbaijani fellow did not know anything about
my plan. Even though I didn’t tell him what I wanted to do, because
he has serious perspectives, aims, goals, I didn’t want to ruin
his life as well. It can be imagined that if I didn’t have done
this than in another time in another place I would have done the
same. If there would have been more Armenians at school and if I
would have the possibility I would not only try to kill two persons,
but rather I would commit the crime on all. However this was the
first and I didn’t have the chance to prepare more punctually to
commit this action.
I’m being a soldier since 14 years now, but I cannot give an answer
whether I would kill if I would be a civil person. I didn’t wondering
on the question whether I would kill Armenians if I would be a civil.
My job is to kill all, because until they live we will suffer. This
conflict is not a new one, goes back to 100-200 years.
[Interrogator:] Have you ever commit any other crime except
[Safarov:] This was the first.
[Interrogator:] In that room, where you were looking for
the second Armenian, was light on?
[Safarov:] No, when I knocked and door did not open I went
out to the front of the room. That was the time when the two students
opened the door of the room and after my question they said that
they do not know where the Armenian lives, I turned on the light
in the room to convince myself that they tell the truth.
[Interrogator:] Did you hurt the victim with the knife that
was with you, did you use the knife?
[Safarov:] I didn’t even took it out off my belt. When the
police laid me down on the ground I myself told them that the knife
is with me.
[Interrogator:] Did you smoke in that room, where you killed
[Safarov:] After I finished I lit a cigarette. I was smoking,
smoking and then I threw it. First it fell on the chest of the Armenian,
then from there onto the bedclothes.
[Interrogator:] Why did you throw the cigarette onto the
[Safarov:] Since I hate them so much and I was prepared
for the revenge for so long it was a relieve for me. As long as
I didn’t care about him it didn’t mean whether I threw the cigarette
onto the ground, or on his bed or into his eyes.
[Interrogator:] If they would open the door or if you could
get into the Armenian’s room then what you have had done?
[Safarov:] I was in a state of mind that I would have killed
him. If I wanted it very much I could have open the door. When I
saw that the others are in the hall that feeling disappeared. Actually
the others stopped me. If they wouldn’t have been there I definitely
do what I planed.
[Interrogator:] Did the victim, who you attacked, try to
protect himself in any way?
[Safarov:] No, no, he didn’t do anything, since he turned
from his side after turning the light on to his back.
[Interrogator:] Or willingness was to kill or to cause suffer
and kill him that way?
[Safarov:] My willingness was that since he is an Armenian
his mother would cry as much as our mother cried when they lost
their child. The whole was just revenge.
[Interrogator:] From the way you have done that, as you
first hit with the flat side of the axe and just after that you
used the sharp side of the axe, did you want to cause pain or you
just wanted him to die?
[Safarov:] My intention was to kill. I didn’t want to cause
a big pain, I wanted to kill. The reason why I hit immediately on
the head, because I have seen such film, that the victim dies from
a hit. Simply I wanted to liquidate him. Although after this in
front of my eyes appeared those pictures that I have seen earlier.
Sawing them I continued to hit. Moreover I have to admit, when I
turned on the light and I first saw the Armenian I wanted to turn
back. But when he turned and wanted to open his eyes I couldn’t
think about anything else. It can be that if he didn’t turn I would
have hit him.
[Interrogator:] During your army, did you get any training,
whose aim was to annul physically others?
[Safarov:] Everybody learns how to fight closely at school,
how to kill person by knife, by hand or by an axe.
[Interrogator:] Did you drink anything, any alcohol?
[Safarov:] I never drink alcohol. I am Muslim and I ask
you until I here take it into consideration.
I cannot say anything else in respect to this case and I don’t
want to, this report contains what I have said after translating
it and reading it out I sign.
* Khojaly (?)
** In Hungarian there is different word for the axe, that’s why
they asked this question