Interrogated is the eye-witness Kuti Balazs, Hungarian, the
WARNING: the following text was first translated from Hungarian
into Russian, then into English and is provided 'as is' with no
warranties of absolute accuracy. However the translators did their
best to provide an accurate translation.
To the questions posed to me I would like to respond that at present
I am attending an English-language course at the Institute of Zrini
Mikli from January 12 to April 7, 2004. Afterwards I will be serving
in the Hungarian Army. During the study I will live in the dormitory
complex located at the Institute territory, more specifically –
in the second building, on the second floor, room 218/a.
I was placed as a roommate with another course participant from
Armenia, Armenian by nationality, whom I called Gugo as a nickname,
although his full name was Gurgen. Yesterday evening, from 8 p.m.
I was watching a football match between Armenia and Hungary. By
the end of the first half Gugo returned from the gym. I would like
to note that we communicated only in English as we did not master
the language perfectly, there were moments when we might not understand
each other completely. I was lying on my bed watching football,
while Gurgen sat at his desk preparing his homework. Naturally,
we discussed the interesting moments of the football game. Both
of us made some remarks concerning the game. These talks passed
in a totally friendly atmosphere, nobody said any offensive word
towards one another, there was a complete military friendship among
us. On our floor, besides the Hungarians, there were also Serbs,
Uzbekistanis, and people of other nationalities, but no conflict
ever occurred. When we just got acquainted, there was a conversation
about different international issues, but nobody spoke of it afterwards.
Gurgen spoke very little about Armenian-Azerbaijani questions, but
after that there were no talks like that even among us. A guy named
Anar studied in the group as well, and after what had happened I
found out that he was an Azerbaijani. I had noticed that he and
the accused used to talk to each other frequently. Returning to
the yesterday's evening – after the football match I also started
doing my English lessons, and asked Gugo to go to the second Armenian's
room to boil hot water, as he had a boiler, and I was having a soar
throat so I wanted to take medicine with hot tea.
I drank my tea and went to take shower, while Gurgen stayed in
the room and continued studying. Then I went to bed and watched
TV for another hour, and he went to his compatriot's room at around
9:30 p.m. This all happened after the football match, I cannot say
the exact time, only approximately. I left the remote control at
the desk and switched on the table-lamp. I don't remember when (Gurgen)
came back, but as he came he continued studying till around midnight.
After the medicine, tiredness, and the temperature I fell asleep
fast. Somewhere around the morning it seemed to me that the light
was switched on, as I was sleeping with my face turned to the wall.
Suddenly I heard a strange muffled noise, around two or three times.
Then, without thinking of something bad, I turned round; being still
half asleep I opened my eyes, and only then understood what had
happened. By Gugo's bedside I saw the Azerbaijani classmate with
a long-handled axe in his hands. I got up from my bed and in Hungarian,
no, in English, said to him: 'Stop it! What are you doing?' When
I saw that my roommate was lying on his back and his head and neck
were bleeding, while he was wheezing as if he was short of air (those
were very low sounds) I was simply shocked. I understood that I
could not help any longer, but I had to stop the further events
so I went downstairs and called for help. I knew that I could not
help my friend any more.
The investigator showed Safarov's photograph. I explained that
it was not the person I attended the course with, but it was the
person who was standing with an axe in his hand in my room and was
stabbing my friend.
When I shouted at that person, he turned to me and said (or I understood
it from his gesture) that he had no problems with me and even after
that he made two or more blows, after what he left the room, and
I left after him. He left with such an expression on his face as
if he had completed something important well enough. I went to look
for help, and he turned right to the corridor, while I turned left.
I didn't know where he planned to go.
I did not notice any strain in the relationship between Gurgen
and Azeri, Gurgen didn't mention about it either.
The question of the investigator: Please answer, how was
he standing, how was he holding the axe, and have you seen any other
weapon in his hands?
He stood with his back to me, closing the lying one with his body,
just the way that he could make a blow exactly between the head
and the neck. He had an axe in his right hand, held it up and made
the blow. As I said before, I heard two or three muffled sounds
of the blows. I didn't see anything else in his hands, neither a
knife nor a Finnish knife.
Answering your questions, I should say that we never locked our
doors at night, only when we were leaving for a long while.
I cannot remember or tell anything else. The Protocol has been
compiled according to my words, and after reading it, I am putting
my signature. I do not need any expenses to be covered concerning
The Protocol has been signed on 19.02.2004 at 11:20 .a.m.